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Testimonies and Cases

See also:

        Access through category indexing for material about Individuals
        Participant stories posted on the Isaac Brock Society web site
        An eloquent and heartrending thread of response to: Has your life been stolen from you by the IRS?

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Accidental  (January 31, 2012 at 3:14 pm)

Born in U.S. in 1964, brought to Canada at age 6 months; both parents Canadian; dividend income from husband; has RRSPs; could owe anywhere up to $500,000 with penalties; accounting fees alone could amount to $30,000. “I have made the personal decision not to comply for obvious reasons and will continue to work through my backlist of travelling to the U.S. until it is clear I can’t cross the border anymore.”

Arrow  (10:22 PM on September 16, 2011) ||  Arrow #2  (February 13, 2012 at 12:00 pm)

Patriarch of extended affected family, many with green card ties to U.S. His father moved him from Canada to U.S. at age 13, received green card as minor. U.S. wife came with him to Canada in 1969, became Canadian citizen in 1974, lost her US citizenship at the time, later US policy denies loss, the couple contemplates no further travel to U.S. Mother 94, sister 71, sister’s three children are all affected. Family would face “tens of thousands of dollars just for the legal/accounting advice.”

babbs  (February 14, 2012 at 7:37 am)

Born in the U.S. to Canadian parents; lawyer in September said must renounce not relinquish; did so last week and paid $450.00. “To protect my canadian family and myself. Who knows what the U.S. will come with next. I have many family members in the U.S. I will not cross border until I have my CLN in hand and my goodbye conformation from the I.R.S.”

Ben  (February 13, 2012 at 11:18 am)

Renounced U.S citizenship; says name does not appear on quarterly listing of expatriation cases; has CLN; IRS has confirmed 8854 filing; friend renounced in 2009 and does not appear on list.

Billy  (January 31, 2012 at 11:01 am)

Canadian father attended university in U.S.; mother U.S. citizen at Billy’s birth, acquired Canadian in 1980s; Billy registered in 1965 as Canadian born abroad; age is 50; net worth a couple million; legally separated; disinclined to become compliant; rather give up travel to U.S.

Blaze  (14 Jan 2012)

Born and raised in U.S., came to Canada as young woman in Vietnam era, acquired Canadian citizenship 1973, understood that US citizenship was lost, for 40 years has identified only as Canadian, official providing Nexus border card in 2004 asserted her continued US citizenship, immigration official at recent border crossing called for acquisition of US passport.

Brock the Badger  (January 25, 2012 at 3:04 pm)

Brought to Canada in 1961 at a young age by U.S. father; has voted “from abroad for several years”; had to obtain SSN to settle mother’s estate; refers to “my dread at the current threat to the ‘commingled’ assets of my Canadian born spouse and family members on accounts where I am a ‘toxic’ signatory.”

Cafreeb1  (3:18 AM on November 9, 2011)

Stay-at-home mother renouncing because of US tax impact on Canadian husband.

Calgary 411  (14 Dec 2011)

Born in U.S., moved to Canada 1969, became Canadian citizen 1975, assumed loss of US citizenship. Six years tax compliant after quiet disclosure. Obtained first US passport 2009 after border guard complained. January 2012 renunciation appointment scheduled in Calgary. “Developmentally delayed” adult son presents serious dual status complications.

Cannot Sleep  (January 24, 2012 at 7:42 pm)

Born in U.S. in 1950 and lived there with parents 1950-1954 and 1963-1967; residence in Canada as student or employee 1954-1963 and 1967 to present. Canadian citizenship registered in 1952 and confirmed in 1973. Lost student draft deferment 1971/1972 and ordered to report for induction, but then classified as ineligible. Now retired after 20+ years of employment with federal government of Canada.

Dimly  (11:05 PM on September 16, 2011)

Born in U.S. to Canadian parents, arrived in Canada at age 4, Canadian taxpayer since 1967, told 20 years ago at border to use US passport. “I would renounce in a heartbeat but renouncing means becoming ‘tax compliant’ and no one I know has been able to do that without paying a minnium 25 thousand in accountancy fees and still face hundreds of thousands in possible penalties, even if they owe no tax.”

Greenwood  (February 12, 2012 at 10:19 pm)

Two Canadian parents; born just across the U.S. border, returned after 4 days; Canadian citizenship paper dated 1982; US SSN and passport acquired 1994; Canadian federal employee, most recent oath 1999; has never filed US tax returns or done FBAR reporting.

ij  (12 Jan 2012)

Apparently of Chinese origin, has RRSP in Canada, now resident in U.S., entered 2009 OVDP, fears 20% penalty on RRSP.  Quotation (February 8, 2012 at 5:37 pm):  “I am in suicidal mood now, and I feel so guilty to my kids, and my wife whose last year total income was only $300 as substitute child care aid while I would be forced to pay almost 100 times more of her last year annual income as penalty for not clicking on f8891 (deferral tax) and that FBAR form.”

johnnb  (24 Jan 2012)

Account of single-visit relinquishment of US citizenship at Halifax consulate by husband and wife based on 1973 acquisition of Canadian citizenship. Expatriation in 1973 based on “opposition to U.S. policy in Viet Nam.”  [Also see follow-up comment]

Karcan  (24 Jan 2012)

Born in United States in 1954 to US father and Canadian mother; moved to Canada at age 8; acquired Canadian citizenship 1995; married to naturalized Canadian of German origin; sister and mother in Canada also affected; some stress with husband over US obligations; three of husband’s nieces/nephews also affected.

Late Loyalist  (7 Feb 2012)

Moved to Manitoba from U.S. with family at age 13 in 1975; family acquired Canadian citizenship 1980; now a Calgary resident; entered 2011 OVDI; paid over $20,000 for accounting and lawyer, and penalty of $1589 to IRS; penalty based on joint account boosted by Canadian wife’s inheritance.

markpinetree  (January 25, 2012 at 9:12 am)

Resident of Brazil who has received conflicting advice from five different accountants. First heard of FBAR in 2009. “From that day on my life has become a nightmare.” A lawyer asked $15,000 to conduct “defense” and said one quarter of life savings would be forfeit to IRS.

Paul Mend  (February 8, 2012 at 3:39 pm)

Filed a quiet disclosure for past 6 years; owed $225.00 in 2008; IRS billed $32.00 in interest owed; has considered renouncing, but unlikely ever to owe much. Cost of filing the only burden.

ronningpencil  (4:19 PM on December 2, 2011)

Father went to university in U.S. 1955-1959, just paid $25,000 in professional fees and $6200 in US tax and penalties, plans to renounce, still has to file with US for two more years.

S —  (8:43 AM on November 9, 2011)

Resident of Canada for 49 years, since age of 7, intends to renounce as soon as penalty for US tax filing noncompliance is clarified.

Alan Strand  (12:24 PM on December 3, 2011)

Became a Canadian citizen in 1971, assumed loss of US citizenship, has no documentation, will not pay to renounce.

Stressed Grandmother  (January 25, 2012 at 8:30 pm)

Born to Canadian father in United States; moved to Canada in 1948; married a Canadian; acquired Canadian citizenship 1963; taxpayer in Canada since 1985.

tiger  (February 2, 2012 at 2:12 am)

From U.S. to Canada at age 18 on student visa in 1961; landed in Canada and married 1964; acquired Canadian citizenship 1972; no earned income until 1989 graduation of youngest child from high school; modest income from investments and CPP/OAS; “stressful to the point that I don’t sleep at night, my children and my doctor are all concerned.”

Viajero  (2:42 PM on December 2, 2011)

Spent $4,000 to file four years of taxes with the U.S. and owed nothing.

[ Last update 14 Feb 2012 ]

Written by usxcanada

1 January 2012 at 12:00 pm

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